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Episode 8 - Dr Michele Bannister: Words and worlds collide

26 January 2024

What鈥檚 the difference between a poet and an astronomer? Nothing, if you鈥檙e one of UC's astrophysicists. In Season 1, Episode 8, Dr Michele Bannister talks on UC Science Radio about how words and worlds collide.聽Listen up.

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Dr Bannister is an expert in the discovery and characterisation of minor planets in the solar system. She鈥檚 been involved in the discovery of more than 800 minor planets and even had an asteroid named after her! She鈥檚 also an avid creative writer. The poet, planetary astronomer, hunter of new and strange worlds, and self-described 鈥榗onnoisseur of fuzzy dots of light鈥 is our guest on this episode of UC Science Radio.

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In this episode

0:55聽I study the formation and evolution of our solar system: how it comes to be in a disk of swollen gas and dust, how it forms and evolves once the planets have formed, and the "little worlds" of the solar system left over from that formation have moved onto the orbits where we see them today. And I try and map out what exists in the outermost reaches of the solar system.

1:26聽You might think of these 鈥渓ittle worlds鈥 as the little cousins of Pluto, Pluto's wh膩nau.

03:28聽It had been predicted for decades that interstellar objects would one day be seen. And in 2017, we had the first one that was seen, called Interstellar 1, 1I/鈥極umuamua. 鈥極umuamua was named because it was found by a Hawaiian telescope, and聽it means "the first messenger arriving from afar."

05:10 Our solar system鈥檚 big!

05:55聽For 2I/Borisov, it does have that big flashy cloud of subliming material coming off it. That's the ices of it subliming. This is, probably as far as we can tell,聽the first time that this little icy world has been heated ever since it's formed in its first disk somewhere at another star in the galaxy.

06:35聽You know, (interstellar objects are) this direct sample of the disk that formed planets at another star. We can't do that with any other sort of astronomy,聽it's like a piece of another star that's come right here so we can measure it.

11:32聽I'd be looking at this little dot of light, this little unresolved point of light, and linking up its orbit across these other images that we'd acquired.

11:53聽And every time I would go: "Wow, no one's seen this world before. I am literally the first person to know that this exists. And now I can tell other people about it. This is so much fun!"

14:58 I'm a person who likes to hit things with a hammer on occasion, I started as a geologist.

15:25聽I'm focused on trying聽to tell the history of our home, of our place in the universe.

16:02聽Asteroids affect life on Earth in very many different ways.聽The biggest impact that we had led to the formation of our moon, which is an incredibly important aspect of so many different facets of our lives.

17:49聽Our place is precious and this is something planetary science can make us very aware of聽and how much work we have to do to keep our little home in this very, very big and entirely empty cosmos.

18:48聽I think being able to write poetry and write creatively is absolutely key to what makes me any good as a scientist.

22:17聽Because it鈥檚 a big universe, we鈥檙e never going to learn everything about it, but聽we can find out a little bit more about each corner of it as we go.



Meet out speakers
Michele Bannister
Michele Bannister

UC astrophysicist Dr聽Michele Bannister聽is an expert in the discovery and characterisation of minor planets in the solar system. She鈥檚 been involved in the discovery of more than 800 minor planets that orbit beyond Neptune and even had an asteroid named after her 鈥撀.

Her research interests include mapping the outer solar system, interstellar comets, and satellite mega constellations. She鈥檚 interested in understanding how planets formed, evolved and reached their present orbits. One of her goals is to help New Zealand launch its own interplanetary space missions, informed by her experiences overseas. Originally from Waitara, New Zealand; Dr Bannister has worked at institutes in Australia, the US, and Canada. She studied astronomy and geology at the聽University of mini传媒, graduating in 2007 with first class honours, and earned her PhD in 2014, working on聽trans Neptunian objects聽at the聽Australian National University. A passionate science communicator, Dr Bannister has spoken at the聽Royal Society,听The Planetary Society,听SETI Institute,听Irish Astronomical Society聽and European Astrofest. She has also written for The Conversation and The Planetary Society聽magazine; and contributed to Scientific American, National Geographic,听New Scientist,听Slate聽and聽The Guardian.

Molly Magid
Molly Magid

Molly Magid聽is an MSc student at UC. A recent graduate of Brown University, Molly is working on research in conservation genomics with Associate Professor Tammy Steeves from the School of Biological Sciences. Molly is passionate about finding ways to communicate science to the public in a clear, novel, and engaging ways. Most recently, Molly worked as the lead student producer on the podcast聽,听which answers listener's questions about sustainability using relevant science research.

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